It was an honor for Isabel to sit down with Dr. Christopher Pachel of the Animal Behavior Clinic in Portland, Oregon. Dr. Pachel is one of fewer than 100 Animal Behaviorists in the WORLD! In this episode, Isabel and Dr. Pachel discuss what it takes to become a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists and earn the right to call oneself an Animal Behaviorist. Apart from a Veterinary degree, and a bunch of research and on-the-job training, Dr. Pachel describes his 4+ year process of obtaining ACVB certification in the show’s first game, “What’s a Behaviorist?”